Alaskan Racists Against Palin

October 19, 2008 |  Tagged , , , |

How despicable. Racists are given a national platform for division in this election more than in any other in my memory. (For those of you whiners, please note I said, “in my memory!”) Ideally race would not be an issue, but the racists will have none of it! Under the guise of inappropriately named “equal opportunity” and “equality” these racists fight for special treatment and demand anything but “equality!” Of course in this election one campaign is wielding a racist weapon to be used for bludgeoning anyone that doesn’t support its candidate. I am not going to say which campaign but here are a few hints:

  • Bill “Guilty as Hell. Free as a bird!” Ayers
  • Rev. “God Damn America” Wright
  • Karl Marx
  • Saul Alinsky
  • Hollywood members of FAG (Film Actors Guild… i.e. “Matt Damon!”)
  • Babies left to die in hospital linen closets
  • Forcibly spreading a plumber’s wealth around
  • A candidate that cares so much… his own brother lives on a buck a month

But none of those hints matter in modern times, no, no, no. (Or as Jeremiah Wright says, “Naw, naw, naw!”) We live in an era of accepted racism and racism, as long as implemented by the acceptable groups is beyond reproach. This racism is a great weapon because any who oppose it are labeled as … racists, only now the bad kind.

Rachel D’Oro has a piece at Townhall.com about some of Alaska’s socially acceptable racists, “Alaska’s minorities feel ignored by Palin.” The title tells me that Rachel D’Oro is probably one of Townhall’s writers that believes Governor Palin doesn’t fit her elitist view of what a vice president should be and from what background a vice president should come. I would personally prefer all Republican elitists to splinter off and form a third party (perhaps The Bow Tie party and George Will could be its chairman.) It is truly sad that a person with values and a working class background is reviled for her values and working class background!

Back to the Alaskan racists, who are upset that not enough was done by Governor Palin to grant special treatment to citizens of Alaska based solely on skin color and ethnicity.

“She has no sensitivity to minorities,” said the Rev. Alonzo Patterson, a Baptist minister and president of the Alaska Black Leadership Conference. “She’s really inciting a lot of African-Americans to get out and vote.”

Since taking office in December 2006, Palin has had a sometimes tense relationship with black leaders, who say they’ve been ignored in their efforts to get more minorities hired in her administration.

Artificial diversity, while popular in the twisted society of today, is just that: artificial. Why do these groups have such a problem with achieving positions based on skills, qualifications, and an ability to do the task? What does skin color have to do with the ability to do any job? I’ll move on while I wait for your answer.

In Alaska, the issue of race relations usually focuses on Alaska Natives, who make up 18 percent of the population. Blacks, in contrast, make up 4 percent.

Patterson and Odom say that when they’ve pressed Palin about diversity in hiring, she gets defensive and even testy.

“If you’re going to embrace the entire country, you need to address the issues here,” said Marilyn Stewart, president of the Alaska Black Chamber of Commerce and a volunteer on Palin’s gubernatorial campaign who has served Republican and Democratic governors. “Most certainly there are qualified minorities who would love to be part her administration. People aren’t asking for her selections to be based on color, but because of qualifications.”

Imagine getting testy when pressed to make hiring decisions based on race! How can the president of something with the word “Black” in its title say the last sentence in the above excerpt? These groups by their very existence make all such decisions based on color! Special treatment based on color (or gender, or nationality) is the obvious purpose of their existence. Artificial forced diversity creates tension. Again, I must ask why these groups believe that the people they represent are not capable of achieving success on there own merits?

Is it that our society as a whole has been so ingrained (or indoctrinated) that racism is acceptable as long as it is directed toward white people? If so, why don’t we let Barack Obama and his Annenberg Challenge partner (and part time terrorist) Bill Ayers convert all public schools to “Social Justice Schools?”


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37 Comments so far

  1.    Monroe Anderson on October 19, 2008 2:53 pm

    It amazes me how adroit you conservatives are at blaming the victim.

    Monroe Anderson’s last blog post..In Search of Intelligence in the Multiverse–Not in Minnesota where Michele Bachmann represents

  2.    groetzinger on October 19, 2008 3:45 pm

    Powel said that McCain is very indecisive.Not ready to lead in the mess we have today.

  3.    Nicky Cheese on October 19, 2008 4:38 pm

    Monroe,

    Big fan of collective guilt, eh? Antisemitism has a very real history as well; I’m assuming you’re for affirmative action there as well, right? No? Why not?

    Every minority in history has experienced mass discrimination. Effectively punishing those who had no role in the discrimination…how is that just?

    Equality of opportunity, yes! Equality of outcomes, no. The latter simply perpetuates the problem.

    “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”
    —Chief Justice John Roberts

  4.    sepierce on October 19, 2008 4:51 pm

    Nicky Cheese explained the situation extremely well!

    Monroe, the victim mentality is fostered by racist organizations, quotas, and programs. Not only do they serve to deepen any division, but they also give the impression that the organizers believe the minority groups cannot succeed on their own.

  5.    sepierce on October 19, 2008 5:02 pm

    Groetzinger,

    Did Powell say that Obama was ready to lead in the mess we have today? If so, did he say it with a straight face?

    I will agree that the mess we are in favors an Obama victory, but that is not because of any capability Obama has other than to sell himself and his message that everyone is miserable due to the evil, powerful corporations.

    He is the best qualified to lead businesses out of our country.

    He is the best qualified to begin the process of understanding in this nation that we really don’t want to be a socialist nation. (Unfortunately he will begin this understanding by doing damage from which we will have a difficult time recovering.)

    I read that Powell indicated that if his support had anything to do with race, he could have supported Obama a long time ago. I suggest he expressed support when it would have the greatest potential impact!

  6.    Monroe Anderson on October 19, 2008 6:15 pm

    The victim mentality comes from being victimized. You guys who have enjoyed white privilege all your lives and take it for granted, don’t have a clue.

    Monroe Anderson’s last blog post..In Search of Intelligence in the Multiverse–Not in Minnesota where Michele Bachmann represents

  7.    sepierce on October 19, 2008 7:08 pm

    Monroe,

    Have you been victimized? If so, how? How do you know what privilege anyone has enjoyed all his life?

    I honestly don’t see having to work harder to attain a position than someone else based on the color of my skin as a privilege. Actually my whole life (as far back as I can remember) has been during the un-equal opportunity era of racial quotas, separate college admission requirements, etc. Of course the injustice that is forced and artificial diversity has spread considerably during my adult life.

  8.    Nicky Cheese on October 19, 2008 9:47 pm

    “White privilege”…I love it! You think I ought to feel guilty, don’t you? I’m guilty for the innate color of my skin, for something I have no control over. Hmmm…sounds strikingly familiar to that which we’re attempting to rid society of. Why is that? Oh, that’s b/c it’s racism!

    Racism is a sad historical phenomenon. Perpetuating it is also a sad contemporary phenomenon. When will it no longer be necessary? What is your criteria? Decades upon decades of racial preferences doesn’t seem to be working.

    Monroe, moreover, what do you have to say to the countless of individuals like Thomas Sowell, Ward Connerly and Larry Elder, black individuals who vocally reject race-based preferential treatment? Having lived it, according to your own criteria, they must “have a clue”.

  9.    Jim Decker on October 19, 2008 10:56 pm

    Way to go sepierce and Nicky. What we need is justice, not equality.

    “Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare but only those specifically enumerated.”
    – Thomas Jefferson

  10.    Alaskan Racists Against Palin on October 20, 2008 12:38 am

    [...] Rachel D’Oro has a piece at Townhall.com about some of Alaska’s socially acceptable racists, “Alaska’s minorities feel ignored by Palin .” The title tells me that Rachel D’Oro is probably one of Townhall’s writers that believes Governor …[Continue Reading] [...]

  11.    Monroe Anderson on October 20, 2008 12:41 pm

    Sepiece: Have I been victimized? You’re joking right. There isn’t the time or space to run it down. But, overall, I’ve done alright–despite the institutional and personal racism I’ll faced all of my life.

    And, I am more than familiar with white privilege because I worked (hard, just like you) and lived in the white world for more than 35 years.

    I have close white friends. How many close black friends do you have?

    Monroe Anderson’s last blog post..Obama at the bottom of his graduating class…what if?

  12.    sepierce on October 20, 2008 6:47 pm

    Monroe,

    I don’t have any close black friends. Does that make me a racist? I don’t have any close white friends, am I bi-racist? I am very fond of our priest, who happens to be black and Nigerian, what does that make me? I have had black friends in the past, what does that make me? My job brought me to a small town that has a mostly white populace, should I have turned it down so I could make black friends?

    I’m not joking when I ask if you’ve been victimized. I am curious where this “white world” in which you lived is. I really would be interested in a summary of your victimization if you care to share.

  13.    Monroe Anderson on October 20, 2008 7:41 pm

    Sepiece: Not having a black friend doesn’t make you racist but it does make you ignorant about racism.

    The white world I live in is Lincoln Park–one of Chicago’s wealthiest and whitest neighborhoods. The white world I worked in was elite media companies–the Chicago Tribune, Newsweek Magazine and CBS.

    The mini-insults I’ve experienced as a black man are too many to enumerate. I’m a middle-aged, middle-class man who scares white women when I walk around my neighborhood because all they see is the color of my skin. I periodically get stopped by Chicago police for driving while black, not because of any traffic violation.

    And while I’ve done okay in my career as a professional journalist, there’s no doubt in my mind that had I not been black, I would have gone further.

    Monroe Anderson’s last blog post..Obama at the bottom of his graduating class…what if?

  14.    sepierce on October 20, 2008 8:02 pm

    Monroe,

    I will grant you that I don’t know what you’ve personally experienced. I will also grant that racism exists (not on a one-way street, however.)

    My previous employer gave preferential treatment to minorities and the affects on morale and productivity were not positive. For example, a black, female engineer could sit at her desk watching DVDs on her laptop or make the rounds visiting others in the department while her co-workers had to pick up the slack. This particular engineer became a senior engineer at a young age. This is one example.

    Having witnessed the injustice of race-based decision making, my common sense thought that it is wrong has only been strengthened.

  15.    Monroe Anderson on October 21, 2008 11:16 am

    Sepiece: I don’t know this for sure but my guess is that your conclusion about the black engineer could be racist. People in corporations get promoted for all kinds of reasons, many that aren’t apparent. She may have become best buds with the secret lover of the boss. While visiting with others, she may have developed invaluable political insights and connections.

    I could give you verse and chapter of white men with mediocre talent who were groomed and promoted because of office politics and race-based decisions that make sure they went up the ladder.

    Monroe Anderson’s last blog post..Obama at the bottom of his graduating class…what if?

  16.    Shane from PV on October 22, 2008 10:37 pm

    Monroe is the racist here. Let me explain.

    Monroe bases his decision about your character based on your skin color or your political view. He uses his power, derived from making others feel guilty about being white, to bully people around. The ultimate point here is that he disrespects the very tenants that civil rights leaders fought and died for - to many like him race has become a commodity traded for political reward. There’s no use asking him why it was wrong when whites were rewarded for their skin color but right when he gets such a reparation. It’s about political power, plain and simple. His first reaction to any attention other than complimentary is to charge racism. That’s simplistic and myopic, and it reflects poorly on a person we should expect would have a deeper understanding of the world around them - as a journalist might naturally have.

    This is why the charge of “racist” has lost so much of its power. It ought to stop anyone in their tracks - it’s a grave charge - but race hustlers have been prostituting the suffering of those in chains and poverty to pay the buffet bill for too long. The shame is gone.

    Does racism exist? Yes - it will always exist. But like Monroe here - history has paralyzed him and so many others who walk around in shit colored glasses…and what do they see? The world is a shit hole that is out to get them. In the world that revolves around Monroe - we’re all racists…

    Shane from PV’s last blog post..Liberal Intolerance #85: Thug Pleads Guilty To Planned Bombing Of GOP Convention

  17.    Toad734 on October 24, 2008 11:59 am

    Marx? Oh you must be talking about the wealth distributing Palin and the Goverment owned Banks Republicans.

    Toad734’s last blog post..This is Something You Won’t Find on Fox News…Although I am Sure These People Watch Fox News

  18.    Canhandlethetruth on October 25, 2008 8:40 am

    Do people really believe the government will march up to them grab them by the throat and physically take their money and give it to somebody less fortunate?

    It wasn’t the working class and poor that destroyed their banks. It wasn’t the working class and poor that retool fast enough to build more fuel efficient cars.

    It was tax money that came from the sales and income taxes of the working class and poor that is paying so AIG executives can go to spas.

  19.    sepierce on October 25, 2008 9:12 am

    Toadie,

    I’m not talking about the wonderful Sarah Palin or the Republican dipsticks that approved the bail-outs, nationalizations, and other big government “solutions” we have been burdened with recently.

    The point I would like to make is as follows. The failings and idiocy of many RINOs don’t necessitate the total abdication of liberty and acceptance of radical leftists.

    Thanks for stopping by and croaking.

  20.    sepierce on October 25, 2008 9:19 am

    Truthie,

    The methods may be more subtle than you describe but the results would be the same.

    Individual responsibility could have been exercised by people signing for loans they couldn’t pay back, but I do agree that the working class and the poor aren’t solely responsible. The government also deserves heaps of blame!

    I don’t understand your retooling for fuel efficient cars thought fragment. Care to elaborate?

    AIG should never have received a dime of taxpayer money and their retreat was idiotic. Guess what? I have never supported any bail-out or nationalization of anything so I suppose I agree with you about AIG.

  21.    sepierce on October 25, 2008 9:22 am

    Shane,

    I agree with you. Racism is a very profitable enterprise for some. Just ask Jesse and Al.

  22.    Canhandlethetruth on October 26, 2008 10:09 am

    Piercie it is real easy to blame the government for everything. You are right, Americans have great difficulty accepting responsibility.

    Yes, there were individuals who took on the burden of buying a house they really couldn’t afford.

    Yes, there were individuals that cast aside their responsibilities to their employees and shareholders to feed their own greed. I assure you if there wasn’t any profit in given any money to those people who couldn’t afford it those loans wouldn’t of happened.

    Yes, there were people, some immoral, some amoral, that took advantage and abused the system. As long as they kicked back to the banks it was okay. Remember this was the Republican’s time — less government — no regulation — the sky is the limit.

    Funny how nobody saw the writing on the wall when MCI and Enron went down screwing all those people in their wake.

    Now, retooling… When an automaker changes its strategy and tactics as in moving from building SUVs to econoboxes all the plants involved have to “retool”. Ford, Chrylser, and GM didn’t move fast enough.
    More importantly the quality of the econoboxes don’t compare the quality you find in the Japanese and Europeans.

    Here’s the rub, both Ford and GM make fuel efficient cars for the European and Asian markets that should at least make them more competitive if not save them if they were brought over here. Ford has a diesel powered car that can easily compete with the VW TDI but there are managers at Ford that Americans are too dumb to buy a car like that, and apparently the smart Americans have already bought the VWs.

    Consider this… one individual losing his home was an idiot. ten people losing their homes were a pack of fools. 100 people losing their homes in one part of the US were suckers. Tens of thousands of people losing their homes in almost every state of the Union is a serious freakin’ problem and too me its an unchecked crime spree.

    Once upon a time there was a great metropolitan newspaper called the New York Post. This newspaper was getting bled dry by elements of organized crime. They got so greedy that in order to save the Newspaper the government had to get involved. This newpaper, although it was not worthy of it because of its constant anti-law enforcement rants, was saved - by the government.

    Now we have banks and insurance companies that were somehow, inspite of all those MBAs under their roofs, have been hoodwinked and stand at the brink of their destruction. These bankers and insurance executives paid large sums to K Street lawyers fighting for a “free market” so they could do whatever they want. Is it me or is it hypocritical to cry out for the government to save them. Is there not provisions in the free market for them?

  23.    sepierce on October 26, 2008 8:38 pm

    The government should stay the hell out of business (especially in the form of bail-outs.) I don’t know what kind of argument you are seeking, but you won’t see me supporting any government “helping.”

    I am aware of what it means to retool (I even work for a tier 1 automotive supplier.) My curiosity was directed at the fragment you previously wrote and if it related to anything. I still don’t see your point. Is it that the Ford executives are stupid for not reading the market properly??? Perhaps market research tells them Americans aren’t wanting such vehicles at this time. If the decision not to retool and build a more fuel efficient car for the domestic market was a bad one, then they should suffer the consequences. Are you familiar with the notions of responsibility, risk, consequences, etc?

    Losing a home because you have lost a job and can’t afford to make the payment is one thing (of course it does not call for government intervention.) Losing a home that you never could afford, on which you put no money down, and for which you SIGNED for an adjustable rate mortgage is YOUR mistake!

  24.    Canhandlethetruth on October 27, 2008 7:25 am

    Piercie,

    You want the government in the bedroom but you don’t want them in the office? You got to go for all or nothing! I can respect no government intervention across the board, I can also accept the government watching over everything. Pick one!

    I’m with ya, none of those banks, insurance companies, or any other financial corporation should get a penny, not one penny…

    You’re on the right path Piercie American auto execs are not as smart as their degrees would suggest.

    They thought the oil execs were their friends.

    I can really appreciate you willing to stand by while Ford, GM, and Chrysler fade away but I can’t help but think how nervous you must be if your company is banging out SUV parts.

    We will definitely save a trillion dollars if we let the banks fall. Actually our creditors will definitely save a trillion dollars.

    In your doomsday scenario who steps in to take over after all the American banks are gone?

    Hmmm… if we don’t bail out the American financial corporations they will collapse and I assuming Asian banks will march in and take their place because the European financial corporations will be far too damage to step in.

    If the American automakers collapse the Asians will definitely pick up the slack.

    We would be a nation without direct control over our finances and dependent on other foreign powers. I take it you can easily accept living in a third world country. That’s what you got playing by your rules. Hey, I can if you can!

  25.    Canhandlethetruth on October 27, 2008 7:32 am

    Hey… I just realized you did not offer how the free market can police itself so it doesn’t implode from greed.

    There was fraud in them thar mortgages and I can’t believe you’re okay with that.

  26.    sepierce on October 27, 2008 6:00 pm

    I wasn’t aware that I wanted the government in the bedroom, thanks for the news flash.

    If the free market is allowed to function, it seems to me that it would be self-sustaining by its very nature. How can it implode due to greed? If there is a need for something, people will pay for it. If the price is too high, they won’t pay it and the price will subsequently fall. The problem is that the free market is not allowed. Loony environmentalists, socialists, and assorted dregs of humanity have influence over and are an overwhelming part of our bloated carcass of a government. I forgot to add parasitic trial lawyers that have so horribly affected the cost of medical care in this nation.

    Fraud is wrong, but what are you calling fraud in “them thar mortgages?”

    Is your basic point that only via Obama winning and emulating Chavez, our nation will survive?

  27.    Canhandlethetruth on October 28, 2008 8:45 pm

    Truthfully, it doesn’t matter that Obama wins over McCain. No matter what either candidate says they have very limited options. The next president will start day one with a trillion dollar debt and $30 billion/month military payments. If the next president doesn’t make a serious attempt to pay that debt off there will be a serious problem.

    It matters to me, not because of who John McCain is, but because of who Barack “Born Alive, Let Them Die” Obama is. How the hell is increased spending is going to “pay that debt?”

    Nobody is paying attention who is holding those notes. There aren’t enough really wealthy Americans liquid enough to buy up that kind of debt. Nobody is paying attention to who are holding the notes. I am not comfortable with our leaders having to listen to the Saudis or Chinese over us because we OWE them.

    Again, how does electing a socialist help with this problem?

    I think there is an illusion that we are the only ones that have a say over how we are governed and how we live. As long as that debt is out there certain people who are not citizens of this nation we can’t piss off no matter what kind of rhetoric is fed to us.

    But making the situation worse is the way to alleviate the situation?

    Now lets talk mortgage fraud. The FBI, Attorneys General, and corporate security investigators all over the country are working mortgage fraud cases. Yes there were a lot of irresponsible homeowners out there. There were a lot middle men that got rich preying on unsuspecting consumers voodoo mortgage schemes and the banks were okay with because they got theirs. I believe they called it “Predatory Lending” like the 90 year old woman in Ohio that tried to kill herself because she got tricked into a loan that resulted in the foreclosure of her home.

    Agreed, there is probably fraud in every industry to some degree. I fell sorry for a 90 year old woman that has no family to help her with such decisions. I will personally apologize to her if you give me her address, as it seems her plight is my responsibility since I wrote this blog entry about Alaskan racists.

    Now lets talk about government in the bedroom. As a man I am in no position to dictate to a woman what she wants to do with her body, and I don’t believe the government in any form has that right either. You want to stop abortion make it culturally unacceptable. Take the stigma away from unwanted pregnancy and you don’t have to waste tax dollars on lawyers, judges, and cops. One credit I can give to Sarah is the first real step towards stopping abortion was embracing both her daughter and the child instead of shrouding her in shame. Put the shame on the baby daddies instead of the girls they impregnated and that would be a good start to get the abortions will stop.

    As a man, you don’t think you have a right to an opinion regarding who a woman has put to death? Or is it just when the victim is the most innocent among us that you abdicate any opinion? Does this baby killing often happen in the bedroom? If not, so much for your “government in the bedroom” façade. I find it hard to believe that you argue against murder, rape, and assault all being illegal. I think you are wrong to suggest such a thing. (Of course you are, since you believe the government should have no say over the killing of innocent children… or is it only the killing of innocent children that deserves some special exception?)

    I agree with you about Sarah Palin’s embrace of her daughter and her grandchild. That is love and respect for innocent life. If you didn’t have your head firmly planted in the dark place, you might realize that being against abortion does not necessarily equate to encouraging “baby daddies” to deny responsibility. It may surprise you to know that I am aware of how babies are made. That said, I know that the father and mother should ne equally responsible for the child they create! At what point did I argue against the responsibility of the father?

    I have witnessed that communities in the inner cities where young girls find themselves pregnant are embraced by their families and their communities you don’t have high rate of abortions. From what I see they don’t get abortions. Now I am not happy about all these unwanted babies that I indirectly have to support via the funding of social services.

    That’s another thing, if you charge government with stoping abortions then you make government responsible for raising those unwanted kids. I am really not happy about paying to raise somebody else’s kids.

    Again, I haven’t been murdered yet, so are you ok with supporting me? Is it just the most innocent among us that should be put to death so that you save your money? How about personal responsibility (you know, things called parents)? How about private charity (not government)? Do you know how babies are made? The only occurrences of pregnancy that did not involve mutual consent are the result of rape. Rape is the only circumstance under which both parties did not make a choice to have sex and also choose what level of protection was to be used. Just to clarify, I don’t support the death penalty for the baby that results from a rape, but I do support the death penalty for the rapist.

    I believe that if you take government funding to feed and raise your child then government has to have a say how it is raised. Don’t want to be told how to raise your child don’t take the money. Now that’s tough talk until you find some woman willing to starve her kid to death than allow the government to tell her what to do.

    How about any funding be temporary and have work requirements? How about allowing personal responsibility to flourish? I don’t buy the we are so far down the path toward tyranny that we should accept it and apparently as you request , advocate for it!

    Now compare that to the suburbs where a teenager gets pregnant and she is bombarded with how her family is disgraced, and how she ruined her life. She has seen how one of her friends got pregnant and she was subtly removed from class — taken away — sent to a special school for dumb sluts. That girl will do whatever she has to do to get rid of that pregnancy rather than become persona non grata.

    Kill the baby then? Because I am against abortion, and because I have a blog, it logically follows that I cause this suburban family to react this way and it naturally follows that I support these types of reactions? Strange indeed. I really must rethink my actions on this blog, I had no idea I had so much negative influence.

    Now if Obama wins would our nation survive… Of course it will! Japan got nuked twice and it is still there more powerful than it ever was. If they can survive that we can get by a new president that doesn’t look like most of us. We survived the Great Depression, WWII, the atrocities that occurred during the Civil Rights Movement, and Disco and we’re still here. We’ve had presidents that were unbelieveably incompetent or corrupt and we’re still here.

    Guess what? This is my blog and I will use it to speak against… Wait for it… It’s coming… whatever the hell I think is important! I will write about the dangers I perceive and the ideals I would not like to see violated. You are certainly welcome to not read it.

    It you review the history of this nation when it experienced a milestone it evolved. During the 50s Governor Long of Louisiana shocked the state legislature by saying that you can’t be sleeping with them (blacks) at night and beating them down during the day its time to make things right. They tried to remove him from office claiming he had gone insane. Now Louisiana has an Indian governor, a Republican no less, and nobody cares. We evoled.

    So you are a racist? This is about Barack Obama being half black? I should shout the benefits of Marxism from every roof top because your candidate is half black and that is his philosophy? We should look forward to “evolving” into a European socialist nation at best?

    My point is don’t be such a scaredy cat! What are you? French? Scared all the time, and ready to turn and run?

    Jackass, you have spent a considerable quantity of words clamoring for me to do just that! Are you bipolar?

    Be American, be willing to work with your neighbor to make things happen. There’s the weakness in Republican dogma — there’s a us versus them, my way or the highway philosophy. Republicans preach exclusion, not inclusion. While Obama preaches we can get through this together Palin preaches that we are more American than them. They have no idea who they’re pissing with that rhetoric. They need the Latino vote but Latinos here they are not American enough. You got Arab American businessmen with lots of money and the right to vote up your way in Illinois who heard Arabs can’t be trusted. That moron sheriff in Florida didn’t help either. I may have to credit Sarah for bringing Arabs and Jews together against a common enemy. To bad its us.

    You are either a liar or a fool that buys the Obamoron crap. Palin isn’t talking about ethnic differences, but ideology differences. We have a Constitution and Obama says it is flawed. Obama is a Marxist who attracts people like William Ayers. That is the point regardless of your Obammunistic spin.

    Now… How can you make the free market work for everybody? How do you rectify that it could take up to ten years or more to recover from an economic disaster without government intervention?

    Take the government and politely ask it to restrict itself to its constitutional duties. Allow people to take responsibility for their actions, their survival, and their futures. Again, I cannot tell you what you want to hear. I will not say “give all to a centralized government to dispense to each according to his need.”

    If any of those social(ist) programs you are terrified of roll your way don’t participate in any of them. Turn down the money. Did you give back your stimulus check knowing the government increased its debt in order to dish that money out to you and all of us? I didn’t think so!

    Again, it might shock you to learn that I am imperfect and did not return the faux stimulus check.

    Where you going to go if Obama gets in? Canada? Have you seen the taxes they pay? Last time I was in Ontario the sales tax was over 10%. England? They pay more taxes than Canada. How about Scandinavia, free healthcare and the kids can go to college for free but you have to give up 50% of your income.

    Moron, I am not Alec Baldwin! Find the place where I said I would be leaving if “Big Brother” Barack Obama were elected! He will do his best to make our country more like the models you reference.

    You swear you’re conservative but you’re already hooked on a lot of socialist programs already. You taken them so much for granted for so long you’re not even aware that you’re using them.

    So I should advocate for more? I should demand total government control of every facet of my life? I should demand that my children have their futures constrained by “Big Brother” or “The Party.”

    Look Piercie you two options. You can cower in a corner or you can do what you can to improve your corner of the world. That’s why I have been reading the mail from all the camps and asking hard questions.

    The one difference with liberals they will discuss what they believe will work. When you shot holes in it they discuss options. You spend a lot of energy attacking what appears to be the only plan on the table, that’s why I keep prodding you for your plan. How can you tweak it to fix the mess?

    I keep forgetting about my responsibility to compromise by agreeing with all liberal plans. That is what you seek, is it not? Considering my ultimate power as a small-time blogger who has to work (not blog) for a living, I am not surprised you think it is important that I offer a “plan” which would include nothing more than a statement: “Whatever Obama says.”

    Now a quick note about environmentalists. I wasn’t a fan of tree hugers until I was the victim of an environmental crisis that was no fault of my own. When that happens to you their argument starts to hold water.

    You were a victim of an environmental crisis? Did you get a splinter in an unfortunate location during a bark humping episode?

    McCain’s your guy right? Explain to me his offer to buy up all the bad mortgages on top of bailing out the banks is a move from the conservative play book. Explain to me how giving a pass to the people that have the most money to pay for that will work. Explain to me if the people at the top of the chart don’t pay down that debt with taxes how that doesn’t fall on the lower classes. McCain is saying he can pull it off. Does that make sense to you?

    Now we get to your basic misconception. McCain is not now, nor has he ever been my guy. I detest John McCain as a RINO that promotes amnesty for illegals and so often appeases the libiots. I support his ticket because the alternative is so reprehensible and I support Sarah Palin. That said, why should I explain to you the statements, plans, and moronic liberal ideas with which I do not agree? Buying up bad mortgages and and bailing out banks would seem to be right up your alley, so explain it to yourself (I do not support either.)

    “The people at the top of the chart” sounds pretty Obammunistic to me. Are the people at the bottom of the chart the ones that employ people? Do you see the point? Higher taxes on those that employ and those that sell products and services will be spread out to the “lower classes” you and Barry lie about wanting to help.

    Now the route word in conservative is CONSERVE. So… I am waiting to hear the conservative approach to paying off a trillion dollar debt.

    Don’t increase spending. Eliminate all spending on anything that is not a specific (or enumerated) responsibility of the government. For example, allow no more federal grants for “artists.”

    Okay, you say the banks messed up and that’s their problem, well I agree. What I am looking for is the conservative answer to what do we do when all the banks collapse. What comes next according to free market theory. Do we just sit on our hands? Is that it? That’s pretty easy.

    I don’t think free market theory includes credit and lending. Not the way you are telling it.

    Here, let me make it easy for you. Okay the government is bloated to the point of being impotent. That’s what you believe, right?

    Okay where would you start to lean it out? One of the largest agencies at the federal level is the Department of Defense. The Army and Marine Corps are suffering severe manpower shortages. I think we need to bring back the draft but we are doing it your way so how do you take away from soldiers, sailors, and marines that are already short on manpower and supplies?

    The liberal mind (oxymoron) is a wonderful thing. The liberal mind says “cut only that which is constitutional and fund everything else!” You, sir are a genius! I don’t agree with a draft, I like the idea of a volunteer military.

    How about the FDA? When there was contamination crisis in produce they were the agency responsible to investigate that problem and couldn’t because their funding was cut so far back ( I imagine to divert funds to the war effort ) they didn’t have the people to investigate it.

    The government might have a case for regulating imports, other than that, I say scrap it.

    How do you feel about closing the National Parks… all of them, including the historic sites?

    How about private foundations pay for any maintenance if they so choose? I don’t believe every little thing can only be accomplished through a centralized monstrosity.

    Department of Homeland Security - FEMA, Customs, Border Patrol, Immigration, and TSA. Can you give them up feeling the way you do about illegal aliens.

    Small government… limited government… government focused on the areas it should. Why is this so hard to understand? You don’t have to cut everything (I thought we conservatives were the all or nothing people in your close-minded world), how about just cutting the crap agencies and functions which should never have been a part of the government?

    Department of Agriculture - no more farm subsidies. I can get behind that… when our farmers fall short we can get what we need from Canada or South America. No more food stamps, its their own fault if they can’t afford food.

    Or let the market take care of it. Funny how you government is the answer types love to restrict, tax, and regulate such that things can’t function in your system on their own… then you have the nerve to say “see, you need our bureaucracy in order to function!”

    Here’s a dirty little secret for you. Some of us give to charity and could give more if we were allowed to keep our own damn money! If people can’t buy food they would have options. One option would be to get … horrified gasp… a job! Another option would be to go to a church or a food pantry to ask for help.

    Department of Commerce - is the census really that important? Can we get by without a Weather Service?

    I seem to recall a census being mentioned in The Constitution or an amendment somewhere. I could be wrong but it seems to be important in deciding apportionment for the House of Representatives and electoral votes. Better keep a census-taking mechanism.

    Department of Veterans Affairs - should we take responsibility for military people that were wounded and maimed in battle? Paying for all that is involved with dealing with an artifical limb is affordable for someone on corporal’s pay.

    Keep the Dept. of Veteran’s Affairs, but maybe take some of the bureaucratic BS out of it. Of course, I believe you and your ilk would sooner spit on a veteran than see him receive care. Aren’t I insightful?

    Department of Health and Human Services - Medicare, Social Security, CDC and the Public Health Service. Uganda is a great example of health care available to only those who can pay for it. That will work for us.

    Phase out Medicare and Social Security, look into dumping the rest. Perhaps you could move to Uganda and send back an eyewitness account.

    Department of Energy - nuclear materials can be managed by private companies without any security concerns.

    Nuclear materials shouldn’t be a concern in an Obamanation, he has a “righteous wind at his back” to power all the enviro-friendly windmills that will power our vehicles, factories, and homes.

    Department of Justice - Attorney General - FBI - DEA - US Marshals - Bureau of Prisons. We can legalize drugs such as cocaine and marihuana and that would eliminate the need for the DEA.

    Streamline.

    What would go? If McCain got in what do you think we would pitch out the window?

    I doubt McCain would pitch much out, but it would be better than the descent into Obammunism. At least McCain might veto bills with pork. That would be a start.

    If we are lucky, he might have an epiphany and push for The Fair Tax or a flat tax (abolishing or at the very least, trimming the IRS) and abolish the grotesque waste that is The Department of Education.

  28.    sepierce on October 29, 2008 12:38 pm

    Truthie,

    I thought the most efficient way to respond to your novel was to reply to the various sections with my answers in bold. Please read your comment which has been edited (only adding my responses, which are in bold.)

  29.    Roger E on October 29, 2008 10:26 pm

    Okay, lets assume one can be judged by the company they keep. If knowing Bill Ayres or going to Wright’s church means he is in fact in agreement with their views we must apply this equally.

    Palin’s husband Todd was a member of the AIP (Alaska Independence Party) from October 1995 through July 2002, except for a few months in 2000. He is currently undeclared.

    AIP’s charter commits the party “to the ultimate independence of Alaska,” from the United States which it refers to as “the colonial bureaucracy in Washington.” It proclaims Alaska’s 1959 induction as a state “as illegal and in violation of the United Nations charter and international law.”
AIP’s creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler, “I’m an Alaskan, not an American,” reads a favorite Vogler quote on AIP’s current website, “I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” According to Vogler AIP’s central purpose was to drive Alaska’s secession from the United States. Alaska, says current Chairwoman Lynette Clark, “should be an independent nation.”

    Vogler blew himself up in 1993 during an illegal sale of plastic explosives that went bad. The prior year, he had renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that, “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.” He cursed the stars and stripes, promising, “I won’t be buried under their damned flag…when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.”

    Sarah can be described in McCarthy-era palaver as a “fellow traveler.” While retaining her Republican registration, she attended the AIP’s 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to secede from the United States and create an independent nation of Alaska. The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended AIP’s 2000 Convention. She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a keynote address at the AIP’s 2006 convention and she recorded a video greeting for this year’s 2008 convention. In other words, this is not something that happened when she was eight!

    Youtube link to her 2008’s greeting to the AIP convention

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI

    The “liberal press” has did little to report on this connection or what the founder of the party she did the keynote speech for in 2006 is, what their charter is and what their founder espoused.

    During all the talk about Obama and Rashid Khalidi and his University colleague’s going away party, no one has mentioned John McCain’s role in giving the organization the one and the sameRashid Khalidi’s runs several hundred thousand dollars to survey the Palestinians about their feelings.

    Come on…

  30.    Roger E on October 29, 2008 11:16 pm

    Oh and reading through the posts I have to add nobodies drinking the Kool-Aid of the far right anymore. The best news is that going forward we will probably see a splitting of the Republican party into the Social Conservatives and the Fiscal Conservatives. The left will likely split as well in to the far left and the Independently minded who don’t buy a platform without thinking. Four real parties that represent the true values of the people they appeal to might be good.

    At any rate it will be a long time before the politics of fear work again and we already see the unholy alliance of the Rovian GOP split in to the born again Paladin’s and the Gordon Gekko’s.

  31.    sepierce on October 30, 2008 7:09 am

    Roger’s back and giving me comments to skim, hooray!

    I see you used the word “Rovian” which tells me where your head is. I bet it smells bad up there.

    Funny, nothing in the past or present of the Mumbocrats nominee is meaningful, but The Republican VP candidate’s husband’s past matters? Furter proof you are a libiot hack. Guess what, Roggie? I ssee membership in AIP as a positive!

    I’ll take liberty over Marxism anyday, jackass!

  32.    Roger E on October 30, 2008 4:54 pm

    I live high in the mountains of Arizona. The air is pretty fine here along with our civil liberties.

    You, Sarah and Bill Ayres, and Wright can march to those “Goddamn America” and “No use for America and her dammed institutions” tunes, but don’t try and pass it off as patriotism. You see it doesn’t work both ways.

    You assume Rovian is a negative, why? The party he constructed out of dissimilar elements and the tactics he used to weld them together into one block is seen as masterful by everyone (except possibly you). Was it good for Bush? Oh definitely. Was it good for the country? Well I’ll let you reflect on the last eight years and come up with your own answer. BUt the man had a mind that is to be admired.

    I have never once endorsed Biden or written anything about him Sammy. It’s clear that you can’t dissect my comments (since they are usually from the mouths of the culprits themselves) so you “skim”. Pretty hard to put up a defense against their own stupidity when it comes rolling out of their mouths huh?

    Oh well… some people like to live like mushrooms.

  33.    sepierce on October 30, 2008 5:20 pm

    The candidate whose past and present you libiots don’t care to scrutinize is Obama, not Biden (although I’m sure he can do no worng now that he shares the ticket with your redeemer.)

    I assume Rovian is negative because I don’t care for Karl Rove and also because you lefties like to toss him out there as a negative. I stand by my assumption regarding the placement of your head.

    You should get together with Canhandlethetruth and write Obama’s inaugural address for him (if it isn’t already written.)

    I don’t buy your views on patriotism or your ridiculous equivocation of the Palins to Ayers and Wright. Given the treatment Alaska has received at the hands of your candidate’s campaign staff in the media, who can blame some Alaskans for having desired to secede? According to your side, being the governor of Alaska does not indicate experience like being a “community organizer” does. The notion of wanting to preserve liberty is not a bad one. If the U.S. government becomes what it threatens to become, which is the type of government someone like Ayers would endorse, a desire to secede would be understandable.

    Dissect your comments? I guess that smell is formaldehyde… and to think I thought it was the stench of libiot BS!

  34.    Roger E on October 30, 2008 11:44 pm

    Sammy says:

    “I don’t buy your views on patriotism or your ridiculous equivocation of the Palins to Ayers and Wright. ”

    Joe Vogler a.k.a Joe Six-Pack is the founder of the AIP.

    Joe Vogler, said “I’m an Alaskan, not an American, I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”

    “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.” He cursed the stars and stripes, promising, “I won’t be buried under their damned flag…when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.”

    Clearly you skimmed to quickly if you missed the coonection to the views of Wright, Ayres, and Volger.

    Sammy your girl Sarah gave the keynote to their 2006 convention and the link I provided is her addressing the 2008 convention, not Tina Fey.

    You far right guys are the last to get it. Our policies have screwed us royally, but it’s not to late. Pull up you big boy parts and get on with it.

    Open the doors and let the light in. Pull you self out of the nightmare of darkness and feces you mushrooms live in. Get out of the rust belt take a breath of the fresh mountain air. We are going to be alright once we start acting one nation again.

  35.    Roger E on October 30, 2008 11:46 pm

    BTW I am so looking forward to working on the response to latest ramblings

  36.    jeff on November 8, 2008 5:01 pm

    found your site on del.icio.us today and really liked it.. i bookmarked it and will be back to check it out some more later ..

  37.    zak on November 15, 2008 12:21 am

    “Clearly you skimmed to quickly if you missed the coonection to the views of Wright, Ayres, and Volger.”
    -typical loon

    Clearly you skimmed “to” quickly past “you” spelling lessons.
    Pull “you” head out of “you” nancy-boy ass and stop being such a libiot.
    Try to undertake your first original thought.

    “We are going to be alright once we start acting one nation again.”

    Give or take your idea of “we”, that’s the only remotely intellible thing youve written, and it was accidentally accurate against all odds.

    The undeclared “change” you libiots voted for will indeed come about when it backfires on you BIG TIME with your class-wars, race-cards, infiltration of marriage by degenerates, murder of the defenseless unborn, abandonment of Iraq responsabilities, sabotage of the economy, character assassination of Bush and all of America, and the rest of your anti-America agenda.

    PLEASE let oblamer kick it off by coming for my guns.

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