“Thought Criminals” Punished in Denver
August 30th, 2008 by sepierce and tagged 1984, Abortion, Ayers, Obama, Orwell, Thought CrimeWorld Net Daily has an alarming story that might just serve as a glimpse of the future under a “Big Brother” Obama administration. This particular incident is the second notable occurrence in recent days that should terrify anyone that reveres personal liberty (particularly free speech.)
From WND: Dem cops cuff, stuff Christian girls
What did these girls do to deserve arrest? Did they commit murder, robbery, vandalism, or such? No, they committed a crime that will be far worse if Obama has his way, “thought crime.”
DENVER – Two teenagers who had been given city permission to write their messages protesting Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama’s support for abortion on public sidewalks during the Democratic National Convention this week were shoved to the sidewalk, cuffed and arrested for doing just that.
The two are part of the Survivors organization, a Christian, pro-life activism group dedicated to educating and activating high school and college age individuals.
It is called Survivors because those born after 1972 are survivors of the abortion holocaust, the group said. “One-third of your generation has been killed by abortion in America.”
Spokeswoman Danielle Versluys told WND the group had consulted with Denver city officials as well as police prior to the DNC, and had been told that chalk messages on sidewalks would be allowed. Even though the city’s deputy chief was in the meeting, that message apparently didn’t get forwarded to officers on the street.
“Big Brother” is not yet in office, but it is never too early to set an example. These girls were fortunate that they weren’t dealt with the way “thought criminals” in Orwell’s classic, “1984″ were. Of course, give Barack The Baby Killer time to take charge and who knows what future “thought criminals” might endure. If Orwell’s book is reprinted in the near future this might be appropriate cover art:
It should not matter that the girls had permission to express their opinions with sidewalk chalk, this is Barack Obama after all. Any negative report or pointing out of his deep flaws will not be tolerated, which brings us to the prior incident.
Barack “Born Alive, Let Them Die” Obama’s campaign is attempting to use The Justice Department to prosecute a man because his group dared issue the truth regarding Barry and his association with the vile domestic terrorist, Bill Ayers. The American Issues Project produced an ad questioning the relationship and “Big Brother” is trying to use the full force of the federal government to silence them!
The Obamorons want to tout judgment in this election due to their candidate’s lack of experience in anything except campaigning and ACORN activism (while now daring to talk about the lack of experience of GOVERNOR Sarah Palin.) I suggest that associations and friendships with people that proudly declared war on our country and bombed its buildings speaks volumes to his judgment.
Please support The American Issues Project, The Survivors Organization, and any other group that attempts to expose the danger that faces our nation in the form of Barack Obama!
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August 30th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Little girls, ABC reporters, anybody who gets in their way. Thug politics coming to a White House near you. Let’s pray McCain gets elected.
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August 30th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
I’m praying Debbie.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Wow ! I absolutely love your blog ! Fantastic posts !
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August 31st, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Thanks Jo!
September 2nd, 2008 at 11:44 am
It’s the Bush/Cheney administration that threatened and continues to threaten the constitution. The Patriot Act, Warrant-less Search, Water-boarding, Rendition, Preemptive War Doctrine, and the desire to let “C Students” scribble on our constitution with discriminatory amendments. That is what threatens our existancew.
September 2nd, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Waterboarding? I always wonder about the type that is concerned about the comfort of terrorists.
I have some problems with President Bush, but I am scared to death of “Big Brother” Barry. Perhaps the “Communist Manifesto” appeals to you, Roger, but I would prefre a shot at retaining what liberty remains!
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Arresting those who thoughts are not NORMAL. OK Liberals are not NORMAL there is going to be a whole lot of arrest. When do we start? Hey OBAMA your under arrest!!!!!!
September 2nd, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Then be afraid of McCain, he is against water-boarding and calls it torture. What worries me is the type that is for torture and in favor of tracking US citizens without judicial oversight. They are the kind that would use the US Constitution for toilette paper. Big Brother and 1984 is about Warrant-less search and yes, the thought police. The Patriot acts enables the government to monitor YOUR e-mail, YOUR medical records, YOUR Internet searches, YOUR phone calls, your purchases, your travel all WITHOUT judicial oversight. Yeah that is 1984 and that worries me, because regardless of who is in office today, someone else you may not trust with this much power may be tomorrow. That is WAY too much power for anyone. Communist Manifesto? You believe all the e-mail forward stuff from the Rovian fear machine and talk radio thugs who manipulate those too lazy to do their own research and thinking. . It’s amusing to see these people talk about liberty and the evils of Communism, there is a clear track in play to create a Presidency that is not balanced by the other two branches of Government. Maybe that appeals to you? The real threat is those who play on your fear to create a world to their ideals. A Czarist world.
September 2nd, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Roger,
Care to provide some direction? I would like to learn more about the “clear track in play.”
I have a copy of “The Communist Manifesto” and “1984,” which I am currently reading again. Neither is a book on tape so it is not as if all similarities I see between Obama’s potential and those works comes from my radio. I do listen to some talk radio as I drive between plants (I have a job that requires me to support two of our four plants.) Your assessment of talk radio gives some insight as to your mental state.
September 2nd, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Glad I don’t have your insight problems. Communist manifesto? Whatabunchacrap. I don’t have time to read that kind of collage crap. I guess I should get a job that lets me have that kind of time. I have been a Director and VP in two multinationals, and I have founded two companies. I designed a network security system that sold for over $30MM. Don’t give me that “liberals don’t work crap. I’m sure I could enlighten you, but not sure it would be worth my time, I am not an Evangelist. I much preferred Ayn Rand style. When I see your brand of of far based politics at work I get amused, that’s all. The funniest part is that a lot of people still lap it up. First John McCain is not fit to be President and his nomination will “destroy the Republican party” (Rush), now he is your man. First Obama is a Muslim, now he is a “communist” do you people even know that the two are diametrically opposed? Which is it? Here’s some insight to my “mental state”, I prefer to think. You should try it instead of letting them think for you. Read 1984 again, your missing the point.
September 2nd, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Your job takes up so much time that you can’t read? Perhaps you should have saved some of your money or made better investments, or now that you have conquered the business world, is your day filled with non-profit work? Are you involved in community organizing?
You may not be an evangelist, but your list of accomplishments is impressive (real or fabricated, whichever fits the list.)
I am no fan of John McCain, however his choice of Sarah Palin is reason enough for my support. The fact that he is not Obama is also a huge factor.
I don’t listen to Rush Limbaugh, but Mike Church and Andrew Wilkow are two of my favorites when I have access to my Sirius Patriot 144. I also listen to podcasts of Laura Ingraham and Mark Levin at my desk.
I do not believe that if some believe Obama is a muslim that it necessarily follows that he cannot be a communist. I doubt the man has any religious leaning except that which he feels may help his career. Have you thought (you do prefer thinking, after all) about the things the man says, when he actually says something?
Is the point of “1984″ that we should elect Barack Obama to the presidency because he is not a muslim or a communist, despite espousing communist ideals?
September 2nd, 2008 at 9:46 pm
I didn’t say I do not read. I said I don’t read that kind of crap. If you believe a persona can be a communist and a muslim, you don’t know the first thing about either. If you knew anything about Aynn Rand, you’d have not asked the non-profit work question. Yes my accomplishment “is” impressive. They are as real as the patents I hold. Laura Ingram takes her lines from the party sheet, I wouldn’t be so proud of buying her rhetoric, she parrots her contemporaries. I have never joined a party, a union, or a non-profit. I don’t even believe in joining a church. I prefer to think! I didn’t bring up 1984. The point of 1984 is that that is the new GOP rhetoric. That and the New Mccarthyism. Did you hear? Barack is a communist! These are desperate old tactics that show you how afraid the old gard is. Obama was not my choice, in fact two years ago I liked McCain for the very reasons everyone on the far right hated him. Then he got the Bush Lobotomy. Now I’m not sure what to do, but yes I listened to him, he’s not scary, his a politician and a gifted speaker. I Do know we can not afford another four years of Bush polices. The country will not survive it and the funny thing is those of you mimicking the GOP line are the very ones who will suffer most. That’s Irony.
September 2nd, 2008 at 10:55 pm
My 9 point Platform. At least I have taken the time to define what is important to me. Now I have to match it to the candidates to the best of my ability.
1. I am a strong supporter of the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights as written - and interpreted as INDIVIDUAL rights of all US citizens (including the Second amendment).
2. I believe in a strong US military used for defensive purposes, but am strongly against the use of it to police the world, or use of it for preemptive purposes or violating another countries territory to advance our strategic interests or that of our leaders. The men and women of our military deserve more consideration than to be put into harms way for the goals and purposes of a few powerful and wealthy individuals. I also believe that regardless of how our leadership uses these young men and women, they deserve the best tools and best care during and after their service.
3. I think the use of borrowed money to finance military action is irresponsible. The recent doubling of the National debt ($9 Trillion) and the 480 billion annual deficit are shameful, even if the Vice President says it doesn’t matter.
4. I think the days of a need for affirmative action is past. All people should be given equal opportunity and treatment and everyone should understand what the politics of personal responsibility means. People who need state or federal assistance should pay for the help they get with community service.
5. I think the cost of private health insurance is criminal and the actions of the insurers in denying benefits through fine print and lame attempts to outlast appeals and create paper barriers should result in jail time. In the one of the richest countries in the world, when a diabetic can not get the medicine they need to live because they have a preexisting condition and insurance won’t pay, or can not get state aid because they earn more than $700 per month while illegal immigrants qualify regardless of their status; something is seriously gone wrong.
6. Although I do not understand why after years of watching us heterosexuals destroy the “institution” of marriage, a same sex couple would want to participate in this mess; I know that legislating morality or allowing intellectually challenged leaders try to propagate their religious beliefs on others through discriminatory constitutional amendments, or perpetuate the myth that men should control women’s bodies is a slippery slope and a path returning our country to medieval days of the inquisition and witch burning.
7. I think that giving the government powers to monitor citizens without judicial oversight is a giant step back into imperial rule.
8. I also believe that individuals or groups should be free to express their religious beliefs or lack thereof anywhere including in public, state or federal property as long as it is not mandated or used to intimidate or coerce.
9. I believe that repairing the current condition of our primary education system with an all out effort to make sure every child has a secondary education in preparation for a life of self sufficiency is by omission, an act of national suicide. It is the result of people’s short-term greed turning a blind eye to the future, and I believe our children should be allowed to pursue our current leaders in court for their actions; for robbing from their futures behaving like the criminals they are.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Roger,
Obama is a gifted reader, without a script he comes across as a moron (which is probably due to his being a moron.)
Now to your platform:
1. I agree, unless a citizen is getting a lot of calls from some terrorist in Syria.
2. I agree with a part of it, I do however think it is a bad idea to wait until we are attacked to act. Sometimes there might be a reason to act even if you, Ron Paul, and Barack Obama don’t think so.
3. I agree, there should be massive cuts in the wasteful spending our government engages in, however the military spending should occur as necessary.
4. I agree.
5. Get rid of the illegal aliens and then get the government out of the healthcare field… or would you prefer a state run system?
6. Perhaps you aren’t aware of how humans reproduce, but maybe you could “patent” a way for two men to do it and get rid of the nature argument for traditional marriage. Why be deceptive, Roger? When you talk about controlling women’s bodies, you mean to say that babies should be killed, as long as the mother agrees to it.
7. I don’t see waiting for a court order before collecting intelligence that could be vital to our security.
8. I agree.
9. Get the federal government out of the education business… or is the Department of Education called for in The Constitution?
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:52 pm
9. The federal government is and has always been in the primary education system. The just don;t find it a priority. The secondary education system is what is now going to the children of other countries. Our own are being denied the quality education that could change the future of our country for the better. If you have to pay taxes, what could be more important. A broke country can afford no military. Thus the failure of the Soviet Union (thank God). Now we march down the same path. The rest of the world benefits from our Universities, and our military spending outpaces our financial ability to fund it so we borrow from China. Forgone conclusion. No confusion.
September 4th, 2008 at 12:02 am
7. Judicial oversight is extremely important. Not only could the FBI or CIA act without a warrant before, they could do so almost immediately by declaring an eminent threat. They only had to back it up with evidence of probable cause within 72 hours. That was sufficient. The problem prior to 911 was with cooperation between the intelligence community, and outright ignoring of identified threats. Now the Bush administration even wants to claim Presidential immunity to things like Gonzalas’ firing of unfriendly prosecutors. Clearly a abuse of power. They even defy a Federal judge ruling in refusing to let Harriott appear. This only happens in a country that is no longer governed by a representative body. What may sound good in theory has proven again and again to be an opportunity for the few. Cheney has admittedly tried to give absolute power to the Presidency. How do yo like that in the face of an Obama Presidency? I thought so…
September 4th, 2008 at 12:09 am
Yes, conception is not the beginning of human life. take any biology class. If the morning after pill were available for those who know no self discipline, like teenagers, there would be nothing to argue about. I have seen first hand the suffering of crack babies. I knew a angle of a women who cared for them while no right winger would. Rape, Incest; you people want to victimize the victims. Most importantly it’s mostly us men who ant control of the women’s’ options. Even Laura Bush and her daughter does not want RvW overturned. as for men getting pregnant. Only a neo-con would make like that is the issue. Marriage is more than propagation of the race, or sexual desire i anyone else’s book.
September 4th, 2008 at 12:23 am
5. If there is a good reason for taxes, it would be for protecting the health of the nation. I have worked in the field of technology for healthcare most of my life. IN ER room’s, in neonatal ICU’s, in cardio and vascular suites, and in the development of MRI and CT scanners. I have worked in hospitals and clinics throughout eh US, Europe, Asia and… I will tell you that we have the best HC available if you can afford it. Sheiks rent whole floors of hotels in Rochester MN to go to the Mayo Clinic. But our own can not afford it unless they have good insurance. This is a National crisis. Most illnesses can be resolved through early care that end up costing the taxpayers millions later. Even the supposedly best insurance companies try to get out of the bill when it is projected to be too costly. This could happen to you. An adult child could have a life threatening illness that causes them to be unable to work. The next thing you know the insurance is canceled (after the exorbitant COBRA that no young person could afford runs out) Now the hospital say no more until the bills for treatment are paid in advance. Now you start dipping into your savings to help your child live. When that runs out you borrow money and when you can’t do that you ask for help. That’s when the government says they could help if you were an illegal alien, no problem. This could be you tomorrow. I know! and good luck when it is you…
September 4th, 2008 at 12:33 am
2. I guess since my answer to #1 was censored, I am not allowed to speak anymore on your board. However, I must mention on point 2 that your candidate has said we should not “invade” other countries unless attacked. Since I am now officially censored, I will stop there. It’s your train to rob, do what your conscience allows.
September 4th, 2008 at 12:37 am
BTW Bush is not a gifted reader. Scripted of not he comes across as a moron. Like I said I liked McCain. I thought he had spine. He is my senator and I have read his books. What a shame. Even those who you think have backbone roll over for the political thugs on both sides.
September 4th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Roger,
You are not being censored. Some of your comments went to moderation and I approved them this morning when I saw them. I have this little thing called a job so I will respond later. Have a great day and try not to get your tinfoil hat bent out of shape.
September 4th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
What is a “political thug”?
Roger, you said this: “Judicial oversight is extremely important.”
You’re joking right? What judicial oversight? Have you seen who’s controlling the judicial system? It’s the same ones controlling Congress.
The government put a corporation in the place of the government and now, because of it, I have lost everything. My home, land, offices, contract, business…everything.
The Pentagon, Senate, House, law firms, lawyers, courts and media are visitors to my site nearly every day.
Tell me a candidate out there who isn’t taking PAC money and who can control the judges and corporations. You can’t.
Political thugs? By this, I’m assuming you’re talking about bankers and corporations? Shall we also add judges?
You’re #7 idea really hits me hardest because I have a foul taste of how the judicial system works in America. It doesn’t. Lawyers and corporations make donations to judges’ campaigns.
Do you really think our political candidates have a loyalty to “we the people” when they get the majority of their funding from PACs / lobbyists?
Do you really think the judicial oversight matters when those with special interests can donate to a judge’s campaign?
My blog is being watched by powerful people. I can’t help but wonder what happens next.
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September 4th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Roger,
Boy you are talkative at night! What do you propose to do about healthcare, oh master of technology? Would you like to have it all be funded by the taxpayer and provided for all with equal inadequacy? Is it safe to assume you donated your services to the hospitals?
September 4th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
One more thing Roger. Is the baby the criminal in cases of rape or incest? I have to assume you believe they are since you believe the death penalty is acceptable in those cases.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:19 am
It doesn’t take me long to write my thoughts as they are MY thoughts. Surpassingly I spent very little time writing the other night; surprising to you I’m sure.
You are very sarcastic. It is a trait shared by your contemporaries.
Answer> After conception there is a few cells. There is no life, no more than a piece of skin. It is tissue. Rape and incest victims should have morning after pills. I don’t buy your BS about human life. I think that when there is a heart beat, then there is a question that needs to be answered. I think it should be answered by a panel of qualified medical people and they should be chaired by a woman. I’ve seen too much to buy your crap.
Answer> I think the traditional system should be in place when people have the advantage to use it. When they don’t I think there should be a system to cover the disadvantaged. It’s a Christian thing. Not the Neo-con bastardization of what Christ said. You may not understand the difference and most “ditto head” who espouse the GOP talking points are not capable. Likewise the left is purely self serving and although not as well organized at spewing party line crap, the are still extreme. The thing that scares you all and the people who have been screwing us for the last seven years is that the majority of people do not believe the crap anymore. A new day is gong to come. I think the party that made this mess should be in charge when it reaches it low point in the next few years, so I hope the GOP wins. then the old message that it is the previous administration that set up the failure will fall on deaf ears. The day of reckoning will come. Christ will have an easy job of sorting it out if you believe as you all say that he knows your mind. Ignorance to the suffering around you is no excuse. tell it to the JUDGE.
September 11th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
What if the incest occurs between consenting relatives, will it be reported to police or a hospital by the female? That seems strange. If it is not between consenting relatives, it is rape. Do you abortion advocates throw the incest red herring in there for shock value?
When is there no longer “a question,” the child’s first birthday?
So are you saying you did donate your services to those hospitals?
September 12th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Okay, for the last time. READ AYNN RAND AND YOU WILL KNOW MY PHILOSOPHY ON DONATING and Communism. I AM A CAPITALIST AND A VERY SUCCESSFUL ONE. The whole community service thing is admirable, but it is not my thing.
You would think from what I have wrote you would get it. The far Left calls me too far right. The far right says I’m a Liberal. Call me what you want. To me liberal is not a dirty word even though you all try and make it so. If you fail to answer one question different than the GOP group think, you are called a Liberal. It;s like you didn’t read my nine points and agree with most of them???
You all repeat the same GOP “talking points”. You can tune in too any of your blogs (some are more venomous than others), or any of your “talk radio” stations and hear the same thing on the same day. You try to intimidate others into your twisted platform that none of you really believes all of, you just don’t talk about the points you disagree with your you would be thrown out of your club. I don’t join clubs, of any kind.
As for abortion, I will never have a baby, not anatomically possible. I will never have to face that question. Men don’t get a vote in my opinion. As I said, the reason so many men want to limit choice is because they want control over women. Had you ever even heard of Palian before last week? My argument for allowing choice in certain circumstances was made on the case of crack babies and meth babies if you remember. These children suffer and die, or suffer and live and suffer. You right wingers want to eliminate the woman’s choice, but you don’t want to pay for the care and life long welfare maintenance of these children nobody wants. Everyone who wants to eliminate abortion should take one of these babies in and raise them (for as long as they live). You seem obsessed with the most bizarre and fringe arguments. McCain is for allowing abortion in the case of incest and rape, that’s the GOP platform. That wasn’t my argument, pay attention.
September 13th, 2008 at 7:40 am
Roger,
I ordered “Atlas Shrugged.” I wanted to read it someday and your comments inspired me to get it. I do, however, find it hard to believe that anything in there or her other works will explain a capitalist charging for his labor and then turning around and whining about others doing the same.
I am not sure how Sarah Palin could have been one of two or three people McCain could have picked and gained my support if I hadn’t heard of her before last week. I am supporting her and voting against Obama.
I suppose any judge who has never committed a murder or never will commit a murder should sentence a murderer. The same thing goes for rape using your logic. Should everyone who wants to eliminate murder take in and care for a potential murder victim for as long as they live? How about rape, burglary, or arson?
I suppose one man’s “bizarre and fringe” is a decent man’s basic sense of right and wrong. Let me try to explain this in simple terms. I am for choice, I believe in the choice to have sex or not have sex. Does Aynn Rand inspire your desire to impose the responsibility for the actions of one on the many? Or is that just a mechanism you use in an attempt to appear noble in your support of killing the most innocent?
September 13th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
What???? I haven’t ever suggested people should not get paid for their work. You do say the funniest things. I never even suggested Doctors and Nurses should not get paid and paid well for their work and all the educational investment they have made. I am saying that when you live in a country of such wealth and extremes you need to make sure you take care of the health those less fortunate and educate your next generation. If you don’t you will pay the piper.
Atlas shrugged is a book about people who create, and those that live off of their work. Particularly politicians who will say and do anything to get elected. Her first book, written when she was 14 born and raised in communist Russia is her condemnation of communism. Her philosophy now call Objectivism (google it) which is an extreme version of capitalism. That’s why all your assumption about me as you try and stuff me into one of neat boxes is so f’ing funny.
Supporting the right to chose in light of rape is not my issue. It’s your candidates position. I’m sure I already emntioned that. Read my words CRACK and METH BABIES. Pay attention. What would you propose? Sterilizing those that should be more responsible to prevent unwanted pregnancy. Your abstinence programs work well hugh (Palin)? Kids still have sex. Junkies still have sex. Schizophrenics still have sex and abandon the babies who nobody wants because they are genetically predisposed to inherit the disease. Idiots on the far right still have sex and many of them are among the most dirt poor in the country with a dozen of kids running around hungry. The question is what are you going to do about the fact that they will still be born. Take them in to your home?
Decent man??? You are so self righteous. VERY un-Christian. Palin is against using federal funds for sex education and instead wants to teach abstinence. Ironic isn’t it. She wants to teach Creationism in schools as if it were science. That’ll push us ahead in the world of science. Yesterday when asked by the ABC interviewer what she though about the “Bush Doctrine” she didn’t even know what it was. When he explained that it was a preemptive war doctrine she fumbled around with indirect answers. When she was asked if she would attack within the boarders of an alli of the US without their permission like we are doing in Pakistan, she mumbled. She is against earmarks, but she asked for 200 million in earmarks this year. She was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it.
BTW the Bush Doctrine was written by Paul Wolfowitz in 1992 when he worked for Cheney as an Deputy Secretary of Defense. Cheney, Rummy and Wolfowitz called it the “Strategic Defense Guide of 1992″ President GHW Bush at the time made them withdraw it as he knwe (he was the former Director of the CIA) that it would alienate us from all our allies, created a cause for radical Islam and destabilize the middle-east. His “C student” AWOL son adopted it when he was elected under the advise of guess who? Cheney, Rummy and Wolfowitz. The put it to the test in 2003 when they preemptively invaded Iraq. Paul by the way said the Iraqis would welcome us with open arms, the war would be over in two years, and the oil we would get from Iraq would pay for it. They fired him later.
Your pretzel logic on the murdering judge lost me. When your mind clears from whatever your taking maybe you can make some sense out of that.
Aynn Rand has nothing to do with choice. Again please try to stay with me on this. Comment on what I write, not what you think I mean.
September 13th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
The rant about “The Bush Doctrine” was entertaining… at least the parts I read as I skimmed over that paragraph. You see, Rog, when reading the ramblings of a loon, I tend to skim.
I can’t believe you think Sarah Palin’s daughter did not know she might get pregnant when she had sex. I know you didn’t so that directly, but your use of Palin as an argument against teaching abstinence indicates that you believe this. I believe the schools and definitely the federal government should have nothing whatsoever to do with sex education. Have you ever heard of parents and personal responsibility? Why do you believe you should be able to decide how my income is distributed?
I assumed Rand had nothing to do with choice (or any other word for baby killing) but it was good of you to throw that line in there for the sake of filling space.
Crack and Meth babies deserve the death penalty for the actions of their parents? I find that notion disgusting. I suggest that people would be willing and able to take them in and care for them if they were known and people were allowed. I bet your precious bureaucracy works to make that damn near impossible! More resources would be available for individual charity if the thieves in government did not take such an unnecessarily large chunk of a person’s income.
Rog, I don’t believe you’ve ever admitted who you support for president. Are you ashamed of your choice? You don’t believe in God, so do you believe that there was no origin?
September 13th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
So you must think GHW was a loon. This is all on record. “Strategic Defense Guide of 1992″ Google it. I remember it when it happened. I was paying attention. I’m sure by now you’ve read about Palin and the Bush Doctrine. That is what they were asking her about in case you didn’t know either.
My precious bureaucracy ? Reread my posts. I’m not in favor of big government. I am in favor of taking care of our citizens.
I did say two years ago I was still hoping McCain would run again and would of voted for him and now I’m not sure who I want after his Bush lobotomy. You really should pay more attention.
The thieves take more of my income than they take of yours I’m sure. You pay more percentage wise now than you did prior to Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy.
You are voting for a ticket that supports a woman’s right to have an abortion in the case of rape and incest. Need I say more about your rants.
As I said, I knew a lady who did raise these babies until they could be placed in a home, about two years. Then they go on the state and in foster care. Their skin is red and raw. They have very costly complications as long as they live. You really ought to know something about what you speak of. No one will adopt them, or children of schizophrenics. She is a nurse by trade and her and her husband have a small home full of children nobody wants. Babies on up.
So you think abstinence training works and Palin’s kid wanted to get pregnant. Come into a tighter orbit. Get a little real.
September 14th, 2008 at 7:44 am
Rog,
Were you intentionally lying in comment #27? You wrote:
“McCain is for allowing abortion in the case of incest and rape, that’s the GOP platform. That wasn’t my argument, pay attention.”
I can’t find any support for abortion in the GOP platform, which can be found at:
http://www.gop.com/2008Platform/Values.htm#5
Perhaps you got your information from The Daily Kos or a similar resource.
Did that lady you know support the death penalty for those children, like you do?
I don’t think “Palin’s kid wanted to get pregnant” moron, but I do believe she probably knew how babies are made.
September 14th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Also Maha Roga,
Here is a little link to an article about the “Bush Doctrine.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091202457_pf.html
September 15th, 2008 at 10:42 am
I don’t know what her position on abortion was.
Palin’s doctrine on teaching abstinance reaslly works eh?
“Little Links” for little minds. That was gobbly gook. As I said I was paying attention when it came out (it was leaked by the administration to the NY Times. and GHWB withdraw it. GW Bush adopted it instead of witting his own. Whose the Moron? Lost in your own fatuity hugh? Most people older and smarter than than Brittany Spears remember it. Here is some real information unless signed copie of DoD documents are less believable to you than your sources (more GOP ditto head)
http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpWESSEX/Documents/Wolfowitz92memo.htm
If you don’t like that one here is a scanned original (signed) from the department of defense declassified in 2007.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2260566/US-Defense-Planning-Guidance-19921999-Leaked-NY-Times
Sheds a real light now in the reason for the Iraq war? To protect strategic interests of the US (oil). Let’s see now how many of the ever changing reasons can I remember from the Rovian myth machine
That’s right ditto head, no it wasn’t because of WMD’s, they didn’t find any.
No it wasn’t to get Al Queda, they came later.
No it wasn’t to spread democracy, They are and will be setting up a Theocracy when we run out of money and withdraw and we knew that.
No it wasn’t to prevent genocide, we don’t doing anything when genocide is being practiced by countries without oil.
What is the daily kos by the way?
September 15th, 2008 at 10:45 am
Oh and don’t forget the real reason, so could Cheney’s company (Haliburton) could sell its $1000 dollar toilet seats and $600 dollar hammers to us taxpayers.
September 15th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Dear sepierce,
It’s McCain’s position that abortion for incest and rape is okay. Palin disagreed with him on that in the ABC interview. Guess you didn’t watch your girl try and talk. The GOP party spokesman said they would straighten McCain our after he wins the election. That’s a laugh. A bunch of nobody party hacks straightening out the us President. If they think they can he truly has had a lobotomy. You should read more about what your candidates positions are then you would not need to be told by a Moron.
September 15th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
I prefer to get some information via moron, that way it can be mostly disregarded without much risk of being wrong.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:43 am
As the great Fonzerelli once said, “great comeback Pottsie
October 26th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
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